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starting sentence with "le plus" or "en plus"
This is from a blog. First she starts a sentence with "En plus, j’ai toujours voulu...."
Shortly after, she says "Le plus, l'espace participatif du Nouvel Obs, m'a demandé...
"En plus" beginning a sentence is therefore used as "what is more..." or furthermore..." It seems in the second sentence it's the same meaning but just another way of saying it.
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EducatorPermalink Reply by George Hunt on -
Just a guess but does "le plus" ,used in that way mean something along the lines of "to cap it all..." ?
I would be surprised if it meant the same thing as "en plus"
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Permalink Reply by alan gould on
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the dictionary has "en plus de cela." I assumed "en plus" was just a shorter way of saying it. "le plus" starting a sentence wasn't defined, but from context it seemed to be the same. I just came across a sentence starting with "De plus..." Like the other two, it was used to add another point to what was just said -- "furthermore..." or "in addition..."
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Permalink Reply by Vedas on -
"Le plus" is a section of the magazine le nouvel observateur so this is a proper noun ("espace participatif" in which readers can leave comments and discuss different topics )
It means something like the extra information...
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EducatorPermalink Reply by George Hunt on -
Yes I think I know "De plus" to mean what you said but I would still be skeptical as regards "Le plus".
Do you want to give more of the context?
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Permalink Reply by Vedas on
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"Le plus, l'espace participatif du Nouvel Obs, m'a demandé...
I have been asked by "le plus" which is the participative platform of the Nouvel Obs
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Permalink Reply by alan gould on
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Thank you for informing us that "Le Plus" is a proper name which we couldn't have known. We still have unresolved, however, the use of "De plus" versus "En plus." Is there a distinction?
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Permalink Reply by Florian Chanonat on
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Yes, there is...
En plus/de plus : Means to add something to the previous affirmation. Example :
- J'ai raté (to miss) mon train. En/de plus, quelqu'un m'a volé (to rob) mon portefeuille (wallet).I think the best translation is "And then...".
Le plus : It just means to precise a positif point. For example :
- J'ai trouvé un travail. Le plus, j'ai un bon salaire (good pay).
Maybe you can translate this by "Best positive point".
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EducatorPermalink Reply by George Hunt on -
We have the expression "(on) the plus side" which might apply .
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Permalink Reply by Florian Chanonat on
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Ah yeah ! :)
Alan, I made a mistake, there is no difference between "en plus" and "de plus", sorry :P
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Permalink Reply by Vedas on
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Not an easy one to distinguish these words:
en plus can be used in an informal conversation and would mean on the top of that/ to boot
Elle m'a brulé la priorité et en plus elle ne s'est pas excusé
or in formal sentences like:
En plus des différences remarquées ....
In addition to the noticed differences....
de plus is more formal and is often used as a link word in the same way as moreover/ besides.
De plus la situation se dégrade
Moreover the situation is worsening
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Permalink Reply by alan gould on
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In your example about missing the train, I would translate "en/de plus" as "and then on top of that..."
As far as using "on the plus (or positive) side/on the minus (or negative) side, you would only use a positive after a negative or vice versa. So, if I told someone I got a job, I would not add "on the plus side" to then tell them that it pays well because the fact that I got a job is good news. If it pays poorly, I could add "but on the negative (or minus) side, it's lousy pay/the salary's really low, etc. Since it's good news, I'd either use "and on top of it" or "and to top it off, it pays really well."
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