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Bonjour tout le monde! :-)
I think I've seen this mentioned somewhere before, but would somebody be able to clarify exactly what is meant by bien joué and particularly bien fait?
From what I understand bien joué is a fairly standard way of saying 'well done', but I can't seem to find a concrete definition for bien fait. Does it have a sarcastic undertone? I am always tempted to use it a jokey way, as in 'oh well done, genius!' when someone does something stupid, or as in 'nice one!' in a sarcastic way. Does that make sense at all?
Thank you, any help would be greatly appreciated! :-)
I don't think I am being sarcastic myself but are you trying to translate something that can't be translated?
I remember when the American comedian Hunter S Thomson was describing the way the Brits berate each other as a kind of a compliment ("let me introduce Jim - he's a complete idiot..." kind of an example) and implying that this was strange/incomprehensible behaviour viewed through his American eyes.
I have the feeling that this could be equally unnatural to a Frenchman or at least they would do this far less often and to a lesser degree.(of course they use plenty of sarcasm and bitter sarcasm but it means what it says on the tin)
Ah I see! Thank you for your detailed explanation, I hadn't thought about it in that way. Merci beaucoup! :-)
it is just my opinion.I could easily be wrong but I think it is a possibility.