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un jupe vert clair
Started this discussion. Last reply by George Hunt Oct 26, 2020. 7 Replies 0 Likes
Well, my whole understanding of matching gender of nouns and adjectives just got shaken.I read today, "un jupe vert clair". "Jupe" is feminine, but "un", "vert", and "clair" are masculine. Can…Continue
gâteau / cake
Started this discussion. Last reply by Dwayne Roberts Jun 5, 2020. 6 Replies 0 Likes
I recently noticed that the French use "cake" to mean fruit cake (Cassell's dictionary and others). But I've also seen it used in cake au thon. I don't believe that gâteau and cake are synonymous,…Continue
S'il vous plaitaît
Started this discussion. Last reply by Dwayne Roberts Mar 14, 2020. 4 Replies 0 Likes
Do we ever use the conditional mode when saying "please"? If it would please you, rather than if it pleases you? I'm confident we use it in other than "please" (as in requesting compliance) phrases,…Continue
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Water Glass
Started this discussion. Last reply by George Hunt Aug 3, 2019. 5 Replies 0 Likes
I think this is an easy one.We have un verre de vin and un verre à vin, which are a glass of wine and a wine glass, respectively.So, is it un verre d'eau and un verre en eau for water?Continue
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Chantal Savignat replied to Dwayne Roberts's discussion un jupe vert clair"yes, even in France, for a lot of native french speakers these rules are complicated. not in a conversation, in speech, or talking.
But writing colors without errors means to think and be concentrating.
I had to confess, I read again rules…"
EducatorGeorge Hunt replied to Dwayne Roberts's discussion un jupe vert clair
"Indeed ,quite complicated (and surprising)
I will never remember all that.
I will be happy enough if I recognize it -if and when I encounter the various examples."
"Thank you so very much. I had no clue. This is a little complicated, so it'll take some time before I'll remember this, I'm sure.
In any case, the article matches the noun. La jupe vert clair, not Le jupe vert…"
Chantal Savignat replied to Dwayne Roberts's discussion un jupe vert clair"oh, this is the color matching special rules ....
if a color is only an adjective and is used alone => agreement between the adjective and the noun
un pantalon vert. Des pantalons verts. Une jupe verte. Des jupes vertes.
Il y a des taches…"
EducatorGeorge Hunt replied to Dwayne Roberts's discussion un jupe vert clair
"Edit: Maybe it is simpler than that.Maybe "combination adjectives" like "vert clair" just don't take a feminine form (or even a plural form)
I wonder if Chantal still frequents this forum as she is our resident native French…"
EducatorGeorge Hunt replied to Dwayne Roberts's discussion un jupe vert clair
"If I saw that ,like you I would be seeing it for the first time.
I don't think it is a mistake though and this is how I would interpret it.
It can't mean a pale green skirt so I would hazard a guess that it means a skirt in the category…"
un jupe vert clair
Well, my whole understanding of matching gender of nouns and adjectives just got shaken.I read today, "un jupe vert clair". "Jupe" is feminine, but "un", "vert", and "clair" are masculine. Can someone straighten me out, please?Thanks!See More
"That's really helpful, Chantal. Merci bien !"
Chantal Savignat replied to Dwayne Roberts's discussion gâteau / cake"where foods are fruits, chocolate and all sugar foods, cakes are generally called cakes when they have these special rectangular form and with this recipe (eggs, flour, yeast, butter just mixed and the special cake texture after cooking). They could…"
"Delightful, Chantal. As I understand it, a true "moule à cake" must be rectangular. D'accord? Does this mean that the same ingredients cooked in a round mould would be un gâteau? In your second…"
"Thank you, George. Do you think "au gâteau au thon/crabe" would be incorrect?"
Chantal Savignat replied to Dwayne Roberts's discussion gâteau / cake""cake" is used for all recipes with eggs, flour, yeast, butter ans other foods ...mixed and cooked in a special mould called "moule à cake".
cakes are called "cakes" where foods are fruits, chocolate, banana and…"
EducatorGeorge Hunt replied to Dwayne Roberts's discussion gâteau / cake
"I am not familiar with this but it seems clear that "le cake au thon" is a savoury recipe.
So clearly "un cake" does not correspond exactly to "a cake" in English which is ,as far as I know always a sweet kind of…"
gâteau / cake
I recently noticed that the French use "cake" to mean fruit cake (Cassell's dictionary and others). But I've also seen it used in cake au thon. I don't believe that gâteau and cake are synonymous, but I can't seem to find a clear distinction.Appreciative of your thoughts,DwayneSee More
"Je vous remercie, Chantal."
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