French Language

Discuss and learn French: French vocabulary, French grammar, French culture etc.

French Vocab Games app for iPhone/iPad French-English dictionary French grammar French vocab/phrases

For the latest updates, follow @FrenchUpdates on Twitter!


Key Student
Curt Jugg
Share on Facebook Share

Curt Jugg's Discussions

Functions of "en" and "déjà" in sentence

Started this discussion. Last reply by Curt Jugg Dec 23, 2016. 2 Replies

I am returning to my study of French after a gap, and I have come across this sentence (quoted in "Le Bon Usage" to illustrate a grammatical point) the meaning of which is not clear to me:"Une…Continue

"Des" as a pronoun?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Curt Jugg Feb 16, 2015. 11 Replies

I am having trouble with the word "des" in this sentence: "On n'en fait plus des comme ça", meaning "They don't make them like that any more". I have only come across the word before as a determiner…Continue

Can "ce" be used personally in informal use?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Vedas Feb 1, 2015. 9 Replies

I know that informally “ce” can be used in place of “il” in impersonal use, so we can say “C'est difficile d'apprendre une langue étrangère” instead of “Il est difficile d'apprendre une langue…Continue

Use of present tense with "ne sont plus"

Started this discussion. Last reply by Curt Jugg Jan 15, 2015. 20 Replies

I'd be grateful for some help on the use of tenses in the following sentence:“Beaucoup de consonnes qui se prononçaient en ancien français même devant une initiale consonantique, ne sont plus…Continue

Gifts Received

Gift

Curt Jugg has not received any gifts yet

Give a Gift

 

Curt Jugg's Page

Latest Activity


Key Student
Curt Jugg replied to Curt Jugg's discussion Functions of "en" and "déjà" in sentence
"Many thanks for the speedy reply, George. Yes, adding "even then"  and "of them"makes the translation read better. Thanks again."
Dec 23, 2016

Educator
George Hunt replied to Curt Jugg's discussion Functions of "en" and "déjà" in sentence
""One [a suitcase] like they don't make any more, certainly, because, according to her,even then they weren't making any more like that." Any good?  "déjà " is normally translated as…"
Dec 23, 2016

Key Student
Curt Jugg posted a discussion

Functions of "en" and "déjà" in sentence

I am returning to my study of French after a gap, and I have come across this sentence (quoted in "Le Bon Usage" to illustrate a grammatical point) the meaning of which is not clear to me:"Une [valise] comme on n'en fait plus, sûrement, puisque, d'après elle, on n'en faisait déjà plus de comme ça".The best translation I can come up with is:"One [a suitcase] like they don't make any more, certainly, because, according to her, they weren't making any more like that."I'd be grateful if anyone…See More
Dec 23, 2016

Key Student
Curt Jugg replied to Curt Jugg's discussion "Des" as a pronoun?
"So it's still a determinant, then. Thanks, Sandra."
Feb 16, 2015
Sandra replied to Curt Jugg's discussion "Des" as a pronoun?
"Hi all, I will join George explanation. "Des" in this case is not used as a pronoun but as a determinant.  However this sentence is a "frozen" expression, like a proverb, used in familiar speech and very (very very)…"
Feb 16, 2015

Key Student
Curt Jugg replied to Curt Jugg's discussion "Des" as a pronoun?
"OK, George. As you say, it's not an important issue."
Feb 16, 2015

Educator
George Hunt replied to Curt Jugg's discussion "Des" as a pronoun?
"Well if that is how you see it OK . I still don't think I would call it a pronoun  but I don't think that is  an important issue.  (you seem to be saying that "des"  substitutes for "des choses" in…"
Feb 16, 2015

Key Student
Curt Jugg replied to Curt Jugg's discussion "Des" as a pronoun?
"Sorry, that last sentence should read: Your "des choses" would be a noun phrase for which "des" stands, making "des" a pronoun"."
Feb 16, 2015

Key Student
Curt Jugg replied to Curt Jugg's discussion "Des" as a pronoun?
"No, just to clarify, it is "des" that I take to be a pronoun, not "comme ça". Your "des choses comme ça" would be a noun phrase for which "des" stands,making "des" a pronoun."
Feb 16, 2015

Educator
George Hunt replied to Curt Jugg's discussion "Des" as a pronoun?
"Oh I see what you mean .You would like "comme ça" to be a pronoun? (not "des") I look upon it ("des comme ça") as being short for "des choses comme ça" That is just how I think…"
Feb 15, 2015

Key Student
Curt Jugg replied to Curt Jugg's discussion "Des" as a pronoun?
"Interesting. "Des" can mean "de" (preposition)+"les" (definite article). Or it can mean"some" followed by a noun (ie plural indefinite article), as you say. But when it's followed by "comme…"
Feb 15, 2015

Educator
George Hunt replied to Curt Jugg's discussion "Des" as a pronoun?
"No I wouldn't call it a pronoun. Here is another example "certains des policiers sont corrompus..."=""some of the police are corrupt " "certains d'entr'eux ne le sont pas" ="some of them are…"
Feb 15, 2015

Key Student
Curt Jugg replied to Curt Jugg's discussion "Des" as a pronoun?
"Yes, George, it is a help, thank you. You seem to be confirming what I thought it meant. I have several French grammars and they don't seem to deal with this use of "des" as a pronoun (I think)."
Feb 15, 2015

Educator
George Hunt replied to Curt Jugg's discussion "Des" as a pronoun?
""des comme ça" I would understand as to mean "of things like that" where "comme ça" is used like an adjective  meaning "similar to ...." "On n'en fait plus..."…"
Feb 15, 2015

Key Student
Curt Jugg posted a discussion

"Des" as a pronoun?

I am having trouble with the word "des" in this sentence: "On n'en fait plus des comme ça", meaning "They don't make them like that any more". I have only come across the word before as a determiner but it seems to be being used here as a pronoun (meaning "things" or something like that?).Grateful for any help.See More
Feb 15, 2015
Vedas replied to Curt Jugg's discussion Can "ce" be used personally in informal use?
"well I'm glad if I helped you !"
Feb 1, 2015

Profile Information

How would you rate your level of French?
Beginner
Do you use French as part of your job?
No
How many other languages do you speak or are you learning?
1

Comment Wall

You need to be a member of French Language to add comments!

Join French Language

  • No comments yet!
 
 
 

Follow BitterCoffey on Twitter

© 2017   Created by Neil Coffey.   Powered by

Badges  |  Report an Issue  |  Terms of Service