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Description and Possession with DE

Started this discussion. Last reply by April Reinhart Oct 3, 2016. 6 Replies

Bonjour a Tous!Could someone give me a clear explanation of when you need to contract de with a definite article and when there is no definite article required when you are using it to describe a…Continue

 

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April Reinhart replied to April Reinhart's discussion Description and Possession with DE
"Thank you for your helpful responses. It was good to refresh my memory on the quantitative expression rules."
Oct 3, 2016
April Reinhart replied to April Reinhart's discussion Description and Possession with DE
"Thank you so much for your helpful reply. It clarifies the grammar to know that it IS a matter of description versus possession."
Oct 3, 2016
Antoine Olivier replied to April Reinhart's discussion Description and Possession with DE
"Yup, about quantification no article = all of it, with article = some of it. De + article is also used with non-quantifiable objet. "Du (= de le) riz" "De la confiture""
Oct 2, 2016

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George Hunt replied to April Reinhart's discussion Description and Possession with DE
" I don't want to sound as if I  know the different  rules and cases  but I am fairly sure expressions of quantity  do not need the definite article. For example  "une douzaine de  douanniers" ;) If…"
Oct 2, 2016
Antoine Olivier replied to April Reinhart's discussion Description and Possession with DE
"Well you would say "pizza au fromage" instead of "pizza du fromage" but that's not the matter. There is always an article after "de" when it's about possession, and du = de le, so there is one in your…"
Oct 1, 2016

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George Hunt replied to April Reinhart's discussion Description and Possession with DE
"I can't help you save to say I was under the same misunderstanding for many ,many years. So you are right but  I don't have  a clear  explanation for when you use the definite article and when you don't. Neil Coffey…"
Sep 28, 2016
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Description and Possession with DE

Bonjour a Tous!Could someone give me a clear explanation of when you need to contract de with a definite article and when there is no definite article required when you are using it to describe a noun or when showing possession. Is it just a matter of description versus possession? I thought the rule was nom + de + nom (describing) but then my French book had "une pizza du fromage" which seems to contradict this rule. When you are indicating possession like "the student's book" is it le livre…See More
Sep 27, 2016
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