verbes pronominaux de "communication" - French Language2024-03-29T10:26:46Zhttp://www.forum.french-linguistics.co.uk/forum/topics/verbes-pronominaux-de-communication?feed=yes&xn_auth=noI think all the communication…tag:www.forum.french-linguistics.co.uk,2016-11-02:3179028:Comment:1244552016-11-02T11:11:40.016ZGrégoryhttp://www.forum.french-linguistics.co.uk/profile/Greg
<p>I think all the communication verbs could be « pronominalised », at least with a reciprocal meaning (the reflexive meaning doesn’t seem always possible). « Indiquer à qqn le chemin » can become « s’indiquer le chemin » in « On s’est (mutuellement) indiqué le chemin », however it seems unlikely that « s’indiquer » would appear in any pronominal communication verbs list. </p>
<p>I think all the communication verbs could be « pronominalised », at least with a reciprocal meaning (the reflexive meaning doesn’t seem always possible). « Indiquer à qqn le chemin » can become « s’indiquer le chemin » in « On s’est (mutuellement) indiqué le chemin », however it seems unlikely that « s’indiquer » would appear in any pronominal communication verbs list. </p> Thanks for your suggestions!tag:www.forum.french-linguistics.co.uk,2016-10-28:3179028:Comment:1244522016-10-28T00:39:59.978Zgeorge willmshttp://www.forum.french-linguistics.co.uk/profile/georgewillms
<p>Thanks for your suggestions!</p>
<p>Thanks for your suggestions!</p> I really can't see the point…tag:www.forum.french-linguistics.co.uk,2016-10-28:3179028:Comment:1245942016-10-28T00:16:01.837ZGeorge Hunthttp://www.forum.french-linguistics.co.uk/profile/GEORDIEHOUND
<p>I really can't see the point . To me that is like stamp collecting.</p>
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<p>Perhaps if you can find a publication or an online article in French that is directed towards French students (rather than students of French) there may be a list.</p>
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<p>PS: Look , I have found this list but I am not sure if it has been classified in the way you are looking for .…</p>
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<p>I really can't see the point . To me that is like stamp collecting.</p>
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<p>Perhaps if you can find a publication or an online article in French that is directed towards French students (rather than students of French) there may be a list.</p>
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<p>PS: Look , I have found this list but I am not sure if it has been classified in the way you are looking for .</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.conjugaisonverbe.fr/verbes/liste-verbes-pronominaux.html" target="_blank">http://www.conjugaisonverbe.fr/verbes/liste-verbes-pronominaux.html</a></p>
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<p>If you search a bit further along these lines</p>
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<p>Google: "verbes pronominaux liste" (ie search with <em>French</em> search terms) </p>
<p>you might come across just what it is you need.</p> We all know the grammar; we'r…tag:www.forum.french-linguistics.co.uk,2016-10-27:3179028:Comment:1241902016-10-27T22:41:36.357Zgeorge willmshttp://www.forum.french-linguistics.co.uk/profile/georgewillms
<p>We all know the grammar; we're just looking for a list of those verbs. How many are there?</p>
<p>Se sourire, se parler, etc. Pronominal verbs of "communication."</p>
<p>We all know the grammar; we're just looking for a list of those verbs. How many are there?</p>
<p>Se sourire, se parler, etc. Pronominal verbs of "communication."</p> If the "se" "me" "te" "nous"…tag:www.forum.french-linguistics.co.uk,2016-10-27:3179028:Comment:1245452016-10-27T14:53:31.936ZGeorge Hunthttp://www.forum.french-linguistics.co.uk/profile/GEORDIEHOUND
<p>If the "se" "me" "te" "nous" or "vous" is an indirect object of the verb then there must be no agreement.</p>
<p>If they are the direct object then there will be agreement.</p>
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<p>I am sure there will be a few exceptions or grey areas -or perhaps set expressions it may be hard to work out but I operate according to that rule.</p>
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<p>If you can find me examples that do not seem to follow that rule I will be happy to take a look.</p>
<p>If the "se" "me" "te" "nous" or "vous" is an indirect object of the verb then there must be no agreement.</p>
<p>If they are the direct object then there will be agreement.</p>
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<p>I am sure there will be a few exceptions or grey areas -or perhaps set expressions it may be hard to work out but I operate according to that rule.</p>
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<p>If you can find me examples that do not seem to follow that rule I will be happy to take a look.</p>