"s'engager" as "to be hired" - French Language2024-03-29T14:48:43Zhttp://www.forum.french-linguistics.co.uk/forum/topics/s-engager-as-to-be-hired?commentId=3179028%3AComment%3A104782&feed=yes&xn_auth=nowell, my point was that the d…tag:www.forum.french-linguistics.co.uk,2013-06-24:3179028:Comment:1051052013-06-24T18:43:36.589Zalan gouldhttp://www.forum.french-linguistics.co.uk/profile/alangould
<p>well, my point was that the dictionary (collins) does have "(usine) to be taken on" for "s'engager." it does have "to hire" for "engager." it also has "to enlist (military)" for "s'engager." so i'm content to use "engager" passively -- "IBM m'a engagé." i'm also aware that there's the meaning of "to commit." so i'm happy to say that "i'm committed to my job" and merely use "s'engager" that way with regard to work. i thought maybe that that first meaning that i cited means that you…</p>
<p>well, my point was that the dictionary (collins) does have "(usine) to be taken on" for "s'engager." it does have "to hire" for "engager." it also has "to enlist (military)" for "s'engager." so i'm content to use "engager" passively -- "IBM m'a engagé." i'm also aware that there's the meaning of "to commit." so i'm happy to say that "i'm committed to my job" and merely use "s'engager" that way with regard to work. i thought maybe that that first meaning that i cited means that you start work with a new enterprise. it would make sense -- committing, engaging. but it's fine if no one is familiar with it. </p> so if you want to say, after…tag:www.forum.french-linguistics.co.uk,2013-06-24:3179028:Comment:1049452013-06-24T15:03:01.597ZDavenne Marchttp://www.forum.french-linguistics.co.uk/profile/DavenneMarc
<p>so if you want to say, after a few years working in your firm, that you are commited...yes</p>
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<p>Je m'engage dans mon travail, je m'engage pour mon entreprise</p>
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<p>but it will not be 'to hire' or 'to be hired', right ?</p>
<p>so if you want to say, after a few years working in your firm, that you are commited...yes</p>
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<p>Je m'engage dans mon travail, je m'engage pour mon entreprise</p>
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<p>but it will not be 'to hire' or 'to be hired', right ?</p> looking for a job is differen…tag:www.forum.french-linguistics.co.uk,2013-06-21:3179028:Comment:1049262013-06-21T19:34:25.497Zalan gouldhttp://www.forum.french-linguistics.co.uk/profile/alangould
<p>looking for a job is different than starting a job. i'm aware of the usage of "s'engager" to mean "to commit to something." so maybe just like committing to the military for a few years when you enlist, it is used in employment when you commit to an enterprise. </p>
<p>looking for a job is different than starting a job. i'm aware of the usage of "s'engager" to mean "to commit to something." so maybe just like committing to the military for a few years when you enlist, it is used in employment when you commit to an enterprise. </p> it exists, you are right, but…tag:www.forum.french-linguistics.co.uk,2013-06-21:3179028:Comment:1047822013-06-21T16:04:31.159ZDavenne Marchttp://www.forum.french-linguistics.co.uk/profile/DavenneMarc
<p>it exists, you are right, but somehow it is more like a commitment (so something coming from you) than a job, so nothing to do with you looking for someone to do a job (active way : engager) or you looking for someone who would like to give you a job (passive way : être engagé) : here everything comes from the other one : the boss</p>
<p>it exists, you are right, but somehow it is more like a commitment (so something coming from you) than a job, so nothing to do with you looking for someone to do a job (active way : engager) or you looking for someone who would like to give you a job (passive way : être engagé) : here everything comes from the other one : the boss</p> yes, i'm aware of the other u…tag:www.forum.french-linguistics.co.uk,2013-06-21:3179028:Comment:1047782013-06-21T15:58:16.552Zalan gouldhttp://www.forum.french-linguistics.co.uk/profile/alangould
<p>yes, i'm aware of the other uses. one use (according to the dictionary) is to enlist in the military. so if that is correct, then it did make sense that s'engager is also used when you begin working at a new job (it said "usine.") but you are the second person saying it's incorrect so i accept it. the dictionary does have "engager" as "to hire" which Vedas confirmed as correct.</p>
<p>yes, i'm aware of the other uses. one use (according to the dictionary) is to enlist in the military. so if that is correct, then it did make sense that s'engager is also used when you begin working at a new job (it said "usine.") but you are the second person saying it's incorrect so i accept it. the dictionary does have "engager" as "to hire" which Vedas confirmed as correct.</p> As you cannot hire yourself,…tag:www.forum.french-linguistics.co.uk,2013-06-21:3179028:Comment:1049232013-06-21T14:11:45.602ZDavenne Marchttp://www.forum.french-linguistics.co.uk/profile/DavenneMarc
<p>As you cannot hire yourself, you cannot use <strong>s'engager </strong>in the meaning of hiring somebody.</p>
<p><strong>engager quelqu'un </strong></p>
<p>(see Vedas post)</p>
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<p>But you have to know that <strong>s'engager</strong> means something else (to engage, to commit yourself )</p>
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<p><strong>Je m'engage à te rester fidèle jusqu'à ce que la mort nous sépare (marriage vow)</strong></p>
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<p>or it simply means <strong>to enter</strong></p>
<p><strong>Je m'engage…</strong></p>
<p>As you cannot hire yourself, you cannot use <strong>s'engager </strong>in the meaning of hiring somebody.</p>
<p><strong>engager quelqu'un </strong></p>
<p>(see Vedas post)</p>
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<p>But you have to know that <strong>s'engager</strong> means something else (to engage, to commit yourself )</p>
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<p><strong>Je m'engage à te rester fidèle jusqu'à ce que la mort nous sépare (marriage vow)</strong></p>
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<p>or it simply means <strong>to enter</strong></p>
<p><strong>Je m'engage dans l'allée</strong></p> Hello,
No both sentences are…tag:www.forum.french-linguistics.co.uk,2013-06-19:3179028:Comment:1047682013-06-19T20:34:23.617ZVedashttp://www.forum.french-linguistics.co.uk/profile/frederic
<p>Hello,</p>
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<p>No both sentences aren't correct:</p>
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<p>You could say:</p>
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<p><em>J'espère être engagé(e) chez Cuisinard </em></p>
<p><em>J'ai été engagé(e) (pris(e)) chez Cuisinard</em></p>
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<p> As an employee you use the passive form just like in English</p>
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<p>or in the active form <em>J'ai engagé quelqu'un</em> the employer speaks about having hired someone</p>
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<p><em> </em></p>
<p>Hello,</p>
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<p>No both sentences aren't correct:</p>
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<p>You could say:</p>
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<p><em>J'espère être engagé(e) chez Cuisinard </em></p>
<p><em>J'ai été engagé(e) (pris(e)) chez Cuisinard</em></p>
<p></p>
<p> As an employee you use the passive form just like in English</p>
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<p>or in the active form <em>J'ai engagé quelqu'un</em> the employer speaks about having hired someone</p>
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<p><em> </em></p>