Past participles - French Language2024-03-29T07:11:48Zhttp://www.forum.french-linguistics.co.uk/forum/topics/past-participles?feed=yes&xn_auth=noHello
ah !!! the past partic…tag:www.forum.french-linguistics.co.uk,2013-03-04:3179028:Comment:1009562013-03-04T13:08:23.690ZChantal Savignathttp://www.forum.french-linguistics.co.uk/profile/ChantalSavignat
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<p>ah !!! the past participle and his complicated rules !!! a past participle error (with or without "s") is the most usual error.</p>
<p>I read all the rules again, and you are right = "nous nous sommes brossé les dents". Because "nous" is an indirect object.</p>
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<p>and yes, don't panic, most of French (like me) don't know the whole rules ;-)</p>
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<p>ah !!! the past participle and his complicated rules !!! a past participle error (with or without "s") is the most usual error.</p>
<p>I read all the rules again, and you are right = "nous nous sommes brossé les dents". Because "nous" is an indirect object.</p>
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<p>and yes, don't panic, most of French (like me) don't know the whole rules ;-)</p>
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<p></p> Yes, as you say, traditionall…tag:www.forum.french-linguistics.co.uk,2013-03-04:3179028:Comment:1009962013-03-04T01:14:03.389ZNeil Coffeyhttp://www.forum.french-linguistics.co.uk/profile/NeilCoffey
<p>Yes, as you say, traditionally you wouldn't add the agreement here: the traditional rule is that the agreement is made with a <em>preceding direct</em> object, and in <strong>Nous nous sommes brossé les dents</strong>, "nous" represents a preceding <em>indirect</em> object.</p>
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<p>On the other hand, it's quite a subtle detail: there's no need for the questioner to panic too much if they haven't gone into this level of detail just yet. For the purposes of <em>speaking</em> French, it…</p>
<p>Yes, as you say, traditionally you wouldn't add the agreement here: the traditional rule is that the agreement is made with a <em>preceding direct</em> object, and in <strong>Nous nous sommes brossé les dents</strong>, "nous" represents a preceding <em>indirect</em> object.</p>
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<p>On the other hand, it's quite a subtle detail: there's no need for the questioner to panic too much if they haven't gone into this level of detail just yet. For the purposes of <em>speaking</em> French, it makes absolutely no difference whatsoever :)</p> I think it should be "nous no…tag:www.forum.french-linguistics.co.uk,2013-03-03:3179028:Comment:1009502013-03-03T23:14:01.422ZGeorge Hunthttp://www.forum.french-linguistics.co.uk/profile/GEORDIEHOUND
<p>I think it should be "nous nous sommes bross<strong>é</strong> les dents" as well as "après nous être bross<strong>é</strong> les dents" because "brossé<strong>"</strong> doesn't have a direct object.("nous" is an indirect object of the verb).</p>
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<p>So the final "s" in "bross<strong>és"</strong> is incorrect as far as I can see<strong>.</strong> </p>
<p>I think it should be "nous nous sommes bross<strong>é</strong> les dents" as well as "après nous être bross<strong>é</strong> les dents" because "brossé<strong>"</strong> doesn't have a direct object.("nous" is an indirect object of the verb).</p>
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<p>So the final "s" in "bross<strong>és"</strong> is incorrect as far as I can see<strong>.</strong> </p> here is some corrections, but…tag:www.forum.french-linguistics.co.uk,2013-03-03:3179028:Comment:1008482013-03-03T19:04:16.966ZChantal Savignathttp://www.forum.french-linguistics.co.uk/profile/ChantalSavignat
<p>here is some corrections, but there are other options :</p>
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<p>We ate breakfast at 7:00: Nous avons pris le petit d<strong>é</strong>jeuner à sept heures</p>
<p>I didn't wash myself: Je ne me suis pas lavé</p>
<p>we brushed our teeth: nous nous sommes bross<strong>és</strong> les dent<strong>s </strong></p>
<p>you (plural) went to bed: vous vous <strong>êtes</strong> couch<strong>és / vous êtes allés vous coucher </strong></p>
<p>you just went to bed: vous venez de vous…</p>
<p>here is some corrections, but there are other options :</p>
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<p>We ate breakfast at 7:00: Nous avons pris le petit d<strong>é</strong>jeuner à sept heures</p>
<p>I didn't wash myself: Je ne me suis pas lavé</p>
<p>we brushed our teeth: nous nous sommes bross<strong>és</strong> les dent<strong>s </strong></p>
<p>you (plural) went to bed: vous vous <strong>êtes</strong> couch<strong>és / vous êtes allés vous coucher </strong></p>
<p>you just went to bed: vous venez de vous coucher</p>
<p>we just brushed our teeth: nous venons de nous brosser les dents </p>
<p>We stayed for a week: Nous sommes restés <strong><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">par</span></strong> une semaine</p>
<p>You didn't do your homework: Tu n'as pas fait tes devoirs</p>
<p>after brushing our teeth, we went out : après nous être brossés les dents, nous sommes sortis.</p>
<p>after getting up, I ate breakfast, : après m'être levé, j'ai pris mon petit déjeuner.</p>
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